2023-07-11 ACCESS EC Meeting Agenda & Summary
Attendees:
RAMPS: Stephen Deems (v), Dave Hart
MATCH: Shelley Knuth (v), Alana Romanella
CONECT: Tim Boerner (v), Leslie Froeschl
MMS: Tom Furlani (v), Joe White
OpenCI: John Towns (v), Shawn Strande, Lavanya Podila, Lisa Kaczmarczyk
NSF: Tom Gulbransen, Sharon Geva
Guest Speaker: Dave Hudak
(v) indicates a voting member
Agenda/Notes
OnDemand Working Group Updates @Dave Hudak (15 mins)
UB and OSC are currently piloting new XDMoD code that will facilitate the the integration of data between ACCESS XDMoD and ACCESS OnDemand instances (much like already exists between OpenXDMoD and Open OnDemand instances. This primarily involves data from each ACCESS XDMoD instance regularly being sent to a database hosted by UB
Jetstream2 team is working on including OnDemand in their Virtual Cluster ansible scripts. This will allow clients the option to have OnDemand automatically installed / configured when they create a virtual cluster on Jetstream2
OnDemand now has an official, documented versioning / support policy (per the request from several RPs in the working group)
The RP roadmap task now includes information on how to provide group based access to the ACCESS menu (per the request from several RPs in the working group)
There has been ongoing discussions around provided RPs guidance to reference privacy / acceptable use / code of conduct policies in the footer of their OnDemand installations.
Year 2 specific ACCESS OnDemand plans:
OnDemand deployed on more RPs
Majority of the deployments have the ACCESS menu available
Deployments are tied into other ACCESS services (e.g. XDMoD)
ACCESS Portal common look-and-feel
Globus file service integration
Registration of OOD deployments / services with operations edge service database
Publishing OOD integrated applications into the ACCESS wide software catalog
Questions for Ondemand working group
what are you thinking about the structure and the organization of the working group moving forward?
We plan to have continuing conversations, reduced the meeting frequency. However, we do not feel at we are at a point, where we can move this to meeting on an as-needed basis.
Given the personas ideas to help the community, do you think the open on demand users are personas themselves or maybe a part of gateways?
Maybe along the lines of gateways, on demand is a useful platform for a subset of the folks, so as a community.
Is there any mechanism that currently exists for differentiating RPs on ACCESS allocations versus locally, for instance, if an RP is allocated locally on Delta versus ACCESS, can you treat them as 2 separate allocations or one.
We currently do not have a mechanism for differentiation. This suggestion will be taken back to the team for discussions.
on demand instance in the public cloud, is this something that you are thinking?
Yes they have deployable instances already available on cloud.
Approval of summaries from prior EC meetings @John Towns (5 mins)
20 June 2023 EC Summary (approved)
ACCESS Colocated Event at PEARC @John Towns (10 mins)
Discussion regarding agenda items
“How we can engage better with the RPs” Tom Maiden not going to be at the event. Tom planning a separate forum with users and technical operators.
EC requests Tom to facilitate a discussion with the technical operators, present his findings to the EC.
ACO to finalize the agenda by the end of the week, 14th July 2023.
EAB Recommendations @Shawn Strande (2 mins)
Need folks to update the EAB recommendation document. We will share this as part of our update with the EAB during the PEARC EAB meeting: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CtAMssCnj8RNfWk7M7K4RvZG-rBdNJsuFseFVQWuP5s/edit?pli=1#gid=0
How does item 13 relate to the personas? Support is working on a recommender system, which is basically like a decisions tree which points them in the right direction, which might be useful.
We do want several recommender systems.
Discussion regarding creating a working group around personas, a representative from Support to be the chair of the group (still undecided)
Next ACCESS Program Wide Meeting @John Towns (5 mins)
Next quarterly meeting will be virtual
Conflicts/unavailable,
September 1st week Support unavailable, 2nd week NSF unavailable, last week several community events
Tentative dates - September 18th and 19th
Next in-person meeting, dates and host? Would be worth considering holding the EAB in-person meeting as part of this to minimize the cost of ACCESS staff travel (EAB member travel will be covered by the ACO).
ACCESS engagement tracker @Shawn Strande (2 mins)
To better support reporting and outcomes. Please update with outreach, events, et al activities. ACCESS Engagement Tracker
@Stephen Deems start using this instead of our internal tracking sheet.
Program Milestone Check @John Towns (10 mins)
Action item for the awardees to update their program milestones
Reminder:Do not edit "Dashboard" tab, please edit "ACCESS program milestones" tab as needed
Informational Items (10 mins)
RAMPS @Stephen Deems
ACCESS Reviewer Manual v1.0 (Draft)
Will circulate to reviewers and RPs for feedback; will then refactor feedback into revisions.
AARC June After Meeting Report
Is available for any interested personnel. A link is NOT provided here since these agendas are open to the public and portions of the content are confidential.
Please contact Stephen or an Allocations representative if you’re interested in the data.
In future quarters we will look to provide a summary report that can be open to the public
and a more streamlined report for internal ACCESS (and RP) use/reference
All Allocations-related risks have been updated in the Risk Register
Contingencies and Triggers still need to be fully populated.
MATCH @Shelley Knuth
We would like to get an up to date list of the software that each of the RPs are running. Can Operations assist with getting this list? Otherwise we would need to do a workaround.
CONECT @Tim Boerner
MMS @Tom Furlani
XMDoD 10.5 currently in final ‘staging’ testing. Due to update production on Tuesday July 18
OpenCI @John Towns
Working with EC on finalizing Program-Wide Goals
will lead into development of associated metrics
ACO actively working on updated PEP; some elements of metrics will require discussions with service teams to explore shared metrics
Continued planing for PEARC23 activities
General @Tom Gulbransen
John has neat story of UIUC undergrads publishing based on analytics from an Explore allocation. To evidence democratization, shall we invite Explore and Discover awardees to broadcast their successes via ACCESS somewhere?
Misc Topics
Reference: EC Backlog & Action Items
Risk Register: https://access-ci.atlassian.net/jira/core/projects/RR/board
Project Change Request: https://access-ci.atlassian.net/jira/core/projects/PCR/board
Next EC Meeting: 18th July 2023