2025-07-15 ACCESS EC Meeting Agenda & Summary
Attendees:
RAMPS: Stephen Deems (v), Dave Hart
MATCH: Shelley Knuth (v), Alana Romanella, Jim Griffioen
CONECT: Tim Boerner (v), Leslie Froeschl
MMS: Tom Furlani (v), Joe White
RP: Jeremy Fischer (v), Eric Adams
EAB: Chuck Pavloski
OpenCI: John Towns (v), Amit Majumdar, Misha Shah, Lisa Kaczmarczyk, Shannon Bradley
NSF: Sharon Geva, Puri Bangalore
Guest Speaker:
Parking Lot
Discuss at next meeting: in two weeks (7/29)
June Quarterly Meeting Followup - Stephen https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Sr7_px4UMUq2hlCM6jOtdtEmPBVCyWbZY4gLtrQ3O3E/edit?tab=t.0
June Quarterly Meeting feedback results:
relevant for our next virtual meeting
Follow up on task #https://access-ci.atlassian.net/browse/ATT-202 - EAB meeting with service teams - Chuck (5 min)
Email sent to EAB to gather interest (7/15)
(v) indicates a voting member
Decisions made during the meeting:
Use Decision Macro - Tool (under Insert Elements in the tool bar)
Agenda
Consent Agenda @Stephen Deems (Unlicensed) (5 mins)
Approval of summaries from prior EC meeting - last week was cancelled
Informational Items
RP Forum @Eric Adams (RCAC)
Allocations Stephen Deems
MATCH Shelley Knuth/Alana/Jim
CONECT Tim Boerner/Leslie
Clarification about email circulated from Infrastructure Portfolio Expansion Standing Committee
JP sent it out on the committee’s behalf
just asking more broadly on info to share what is being done
Fall RP workshop plans are starting to come together. Likely looking at the week of Sept 30-Oct 3 in Orlando (~2 days of content). Tom Maiden emailed the EC to ask if anyone from your team will attend.
there is funding available for RPs to travel
MMS Tom Furlani
Working with Shannon to move the plans for the Sept Quarterly Meeting forward. Full steam ahead..
EAB @Chuck P
working on finalizing next EAB meeting date - likely candidate will be Sept 4th (virtual)
waiting for EAB notes from past meeting in June
OpenCI John Towns - absent
NSF Sharon and Puri
Milestone Review
To Do / Follow Ups
Reminders
Upcoming Meetings & Events (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_EXKUOXmY-TVkDWaHR1-SuiKt404uGEnGSr6uQCkwzw/edit?gid=0#gid=0 )
Additional Agenda Items
Communications Standing Group Report - Dina Meek (10 min)
Presentation - overview of PY3 and plan for PY4
(link)
Joe W - have a monitor to play slides at PEARC? no not this year, a few people have decks, can we get these incorporated elsewhere?
Introduce Misha
Quarterly Meeting - (5 min)
ACO heard from U of I sponsored program today (7/9) and they now have guidance on how to handle the awards/supplements with the contentious language. My understanding was that they hoped to have the supplement processed by the end of 7/9!
So, we now have green lights across the boards to proceed with the in-person meeting and paying for licenses.
Planning update:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Me875geb_a1jj8gOgJJeCW5nXgrdPMg5AGaQCEI8PAU/edit?usp=sharing
“Who is a Priority” and what does being a priority mean - Shelley (30 mins)
Review of what was discussed last week
Sharon - #1 priority is ACSS people - they are funded to be part of ACCESS
Who comes next - there is a range of possibilities
We have a lot of tools that could be available to the masses
Should we publish a list of our priority people? hierarchy/algorithm
Tim - as that would become known - people would feel “less than” if they were not at the top of the list - many already know ACSS is priority - if we announce this it might drive some people away / ignore us. Let’s not classify it by who this activity is going to most benefit - if we tie it to a group we could limit activities that can provide a lot of value - let’s think about what the 5 programs and as ACCES could undertake in 18 months that stands to deliver the most value to the existing ecosystem and those who are closest to joining us. There are things that Ops could pursue that have things that could be used by our larger userset.
Tom - maybe if we classify 2 different ways of support - Active Support, and Passive Support (tools and techniques that others can leverage but we are not actively supporting)
Stephen - leans toward what Tom is talking about - since it isn’t a long list of users - people might not object to a list like this
ACSS Cat I/Cat II
Other NSF-funded initiatives (if they see value in ACCESS services)
Other initiatives (And only if no other priorities above are being worked on)
Shelley - have we done everything for that group to make life worthwhile for them and us - if no or a little bit but not all the way - we should get that taken care of before anything else
Tim - that is prob not a binary list - if we go to them and ask what else could we do - they would provide a list that would take the next 18 months - if we put 95% of effort on ACSS - we will fail the rest of the broader ACCESS program. We will not get any more info and do not have an official change of scope
Sharon - memo mentions cost/benefit - whatever the original charge was - it talks about resources that can be primarily for national purposes - if you have a proposal that can allocate 30 GPU hours per year - if you look at the cost benefit - it would not be there for that one - can they benefit from the tools we already have - yes - but this discussion should be about “what is being integrated” There are a lot of things we can do aside from that but they do not need to be part of an allocation schema if there is not a positive CBA
Tim - integration means taking any steps going toward the badging - the “integrated” above defines it differently - that as an action is not what this conversation is about - whether someone should be or should not be allocated to ACCESS - we should steer away from the word “integration” - we should find something else to more properly define
Shelley - have we done all the things for the ACSS providers? Have we fully “integrated” ACSS into ACCESS - what does even this really mean?
Tim - for ACCS there is metrics and utilization tools as well as just getting access - internet2 is optional - if they are not compliant our approach is to inform NSF and allow them to have the discussion to get them to adopt
Tom F - our mission is to provide access for researchers to advance their research - we provide tools and software and other things they can leverage for their benefit which also benefits the rest of the ecosystem - we shouldn’t aim to serve the universe - if we get a big offer - we let NSF decide if that is a direction we should head
Sharon - From ACSS: “Resource Providers supported via this solicitation will be incorporated into NSF’s ACSS 2.0 program portfolio. This program complements investments in leadership-class computing and funds a federation of nationally available advanced computing resources that are technically diverse and intended to enable discoveries at a computational scale beyond the research of individual or regional academic institutions.”
“NSF anticipates that at least 90% of the provisioned resource will be available to the S&E community through an open peer-reviewed national allocation process and have resource users be supported by community and other support services. Such allocation and support services are expected to be coordinated through the NSF-funded Advanced Cyberinfrastructure Coordination Ecosystem: Services & Support (ACCESS) , the National AI Research Resource, or an NSF-approved alternative as may emerge.”Shelley - what are we going to do to come to a resolution on this? We have had some good discussion. What do we do now?
Discuss while at PEARC in person
Amit - this is an EC wide decision - and making a working group for this is not in our benefit
Sharon - the memo is a memo to the PIs of the award - you as PIs are responsible to NSF and to the taxpayer for what we have been allocated. It should be part of the strategy the PIs have to set and that NSF is expecting
Shelley - how do we get together to decide on this? Does include Jeremy and he wants to be involved - meet at PEARC to see if being in person helps bring this to a conclusion.
Program Milestones
EC Meeting Task Tracking + Quarterly and Annual Meetings To Do Follow Ups
Misc Topics:
Next EC Meeting: No meeting July 22, 2025 (PEARC), next meeting July 29, 2025 (Shelley absent-Chuck chair), Aug 5 (Shelley gone - Chuck will chair)
Reference:
Risk Register: https://access-ci.atlassian.net/jira/core/projects/RR/board
Project Change Request: https://access-ci.atlassian.net/jira/core/projects/PCR/board